Try Listening Next Time, Don

Take a look at this footage from Tuesday's U.S. House Financial Services Committee on Tuesday, in which Federal Reserve chief Ben Bernanke "break[s] with traditional comity" to call Rep. Don Manzullo's (R-IL) question "poorly posed":

Not Manzullo's finest hour.

So what was the Rockford Republican talking about in the first place?  Here's an excerpt from Bernanke's opening statement, with the relevant section in bold:

The Federal Reserve and the Treasury agreed that AIG's failure under the conditions then prevailing would have posed unacceptable risks for the global financial system and for our economy. Some of AIG's insurance subsidiaries, which are among the largest in the United States and the world, would have likely been put into rehabilitation by their regulators, leaving policyholders facing considerable uncertainty about the status of their claims. State and local government entities that had lent more than $10 billion to AIG would have suffered losses. Workers whose 401(k) plans had purchased $40 billion of insurance from AIG against the risk that their stable value funds would decline in value would have seen that insurance disappear. Global banks and investment banks would have suffered losses on loans and lines of credit to AIG, and on derivatives with AIG-FP. The banks' combined exposures exceeded $50 billion.1 Money market mutual funds and others that held AIG's roughly $20 billion of commercial paper would also have taken losses. In addition, AIG's insurance subsidiaries had substantial derivatives exposures to AIG-FP that could have weakened them in the event of the parent company's failure.

Manzullo's take-away seems to be that the point of bailing out AIG was to protect that sliver of the public whose retirement plans had bought AIG insurance on their so-called "stable value funds," which the Wall Street Journal described this way: 

These funds typically maintain a relatively steady "crediting rate" -- essentially the yield investors receive -- by investing in diversified bond portfolios and then using contracts from banks and insurers to protect against sharp market swings.

But as Bernanke's statement shows, protecting the stable value funds with AIG insurance was just one of numerous factors that led the government to take the action it did.  Manzullo clearly doesn't want to hear that.  He wants a "yes or no" answer to his ridiculously narrow question.

In the beginning of the clip, New York Federal Reserve chairman William Dudley tries to answer Manzullo by explaining what would have happened if those stable value funds had taken a hit.  The scenario he lays out is pretty simple:

DUDLEY: The insurance was on the stable value funds.  If the investors in the stable value funds had taken losses in the AIG case, this would have destabilized stable value funds broadly across the U.S. economy.

In short, stable value funds beyond just those insured by AIG would have been adversely affected.  Yet rather than absorb Dudley's response, Manzullo hectors him: "The answer is yes, isn't it?"  He goes on to complain, "Not one of you can give me a yes or no answer on that question!"  And it just goes downhill from there.

The Huffington Post's Ryan Grim hits the nail on the head with his analysis:

The most generous interpretation is that Manzullo is hoping to create footage for a future campaign commercial.

Comments

This may be a bit old by now, but I thought it was a very noteworthy exchange when I saw it on CSPAN.
Rep. Manzullo seemed to think that all sorts of common stock investments in peoples' retirement accounts had been insured by AIG, and thus were reimbursed to the tune of $40 billion, while the retirement accounts of regular Americans without AIG insurance had to suffer the 40% to 50% losses. He didn't seem to know what a stable value fund is.

These funds have no common stock investments. Just high quality short and intermediate debt with an average duration (length of time until maturity) of maybe 3 years. Of course that "high quality" debt certainly has some risk if it is debt of a financial company needing a government bailout. Nevertheless, it is certain that the $40 billion that Mr. Bernanke spoke about was insurance COVERAGE, not payouts. Stable value funds only have to collect on their wrap insurance when an individual plan participant withdraws from the fund when the market value of the fund's investments is less than their book value. Not too many people are withdrawing from these funds right now. They are more popular than ever, as safe havens.

Stable value funds can be life savers in employer provided retirement plans. Who could be against them? Undoubtedly, many of Rep. Manzullo's constituents have allocated a portion of their retirement plans to these very funds. If, as Manzullo claimed, the American public is angry about the $40 billion of coverage, then many of them would have to be angry with themselves, while at the same time being so glad they were in the funds, to the extent that they were.

Another interesting aspect of the committee hearing was when Barney Frank interrupted Rep. Manzullo to warn the audience at the hearing that their smirking and conversations must stop or they will be escorted from the room. The audience apparently realized how off track Rep. Manzullo's question was. But this oppurtunity for Rep. Manzullo to pause for a moment of introspection, or for Rep. Frank or anyone else to quickly signal to Rep. Manzullo that he apparently doesn't understand what a stable value fund is, was lost. It might be safe to say that not that many people do know what a stable value fund is. The industry does keep a low profile.

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