PI Original Adam Doster Monday November 16th, 2009, 11:49am

The GOP Loses It Over Thomson/Gitmo Plan

Illinois' prison system is finally making major headlines.  But not for the reasons we had hoped. Over the weekend, the White House announced that the near-empty Thomson Correctional Center in rural northwest Illinois has emerged as a potential candidate to house ...

Illinois' prison system is finally making major headlines.  But not for the reasons we had hoped.

Over the weekend, the White House announced that the near-empty Thomson Correctional Center in rural northwest Illinois has emerged as a potential candidate to house terrorism suspects from the Guantanamo Bay military prison. Federal officials, at the behest of the White House, are scheduled to inspect the facility today. Gov. Pat Quinn and Sen. Dick Durbin will hold a series of press conferences outlining the potential plan, which they argue would spur the local economy. If approved, the federal government would purchase the 1,600-cell, maximum-security prison and fill it with regular inmates. They would then set aside a section for the less than 100 Gitmo detainees as a way to help close the controversial prison in Cuba.

Yesterday, like clockwork, GOP lawmakers pounced on the issue, unleashing a barrage of attacks on Quinn and the White House for even considering such a move.

In a letter signed by the seven-member GOP congressional delegation, Rep. Mark Kirk warned that "our state and the Chicago Metropolitan Area will become ground zero for Jihadist terrorist plots, recruitment and radicalization." Not to be outdone, Rep. Peter Roskam suggested that 'terrorists have no place on American soil." Rep. Judy Biggert added a similar thought, suggesting that "these detainees pose a unique threat to America's security" and they should be "kept away from our shores, and far from America’s heartland." Later this morning, Kirk, Roskam, Biggert and Rep. Don Manzullo will air their grievances at a joint press conference. And they've already circulated a petition calling on President Obama to "stop Al Qaeda terrorists from coming to Illinois." Even two Republican gubernatorial candidates, Dan Proft and Andy McKenna, got in on the action, the former releasing a statement that calls the plan "a terrible idea that threatens the safety of Illinois residents" and the latter telling the press he opposed "efforts to move Gitmo detainees to our neighborhoods."

This is a serious issue that deserves serious scrutiny. For example, AFSCME Council 31, which represents Illinois prison guards, is angry that the state would sell off Thomson instead of using it to ease overcrowding at the state's maximum security prisons. But before pols get all hysterical, it's important to understand what exactly is being proposed.

Here are a few facts.  (Capitol Fax has a helpful compendium of links that offer some context.)

First, Roskam is just flat-out wrong when he said that terrorists "have no place on American soil." In fact, many are currently residing in U.S. prisons. Federal facilities currently house 216 international terrorists and 139 domestic terrorists. Thirty-five of those inmates are housed in Illinois. U.S. Bureau of Prisons spokesperson Traci L. Billingsley says that none of them have ever escaped. And Durbin -- one of only six senators to vote to fund the closure of the Guantanamo detention facility -- made a salient point on the Senate floor in May: Those who think our prisons can't handle these detainees "ought to have a little more respect for the men and women who are corrections officers."

It's also very important to remember that these detainees would be isolated from the general population. Other high-security prisoners would have no contact with these terrorists. No words would be exchanged and no ideologies discussed. They will be monitored very closely. Perhaps that's one reason why locals aren't too nervous about accepting the transfers.

Kirk will be sure to flaunt his military expertise at the press conference today, warning that he truly understands that threats posed by the Thomson proposal. But his inflated rhetoric on this issue proves he doesn't care about subtlety or thoughtful policy when a political point can be gained.

"It's hard not to wonder if these guys are even listening to themselves," writes Steve Benen. "Locking up terrorists is bad for security? Federal prisons are 'ground zero for Jihadist terrorist plots'? It's like listening to children."

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Here is Rep. Manzullo last night calling Islam a "savage religion".

http://www.wrex.com/global/video/flash/popupplayer.asp?ClipID1=4303919&h...

If "terrorists have no place on American soil", then why did dick Cheney build his new place within burrowing distance of CIA Headquarters in Virginia?

Marcus, as you may already know, more people have been killed and tortured in the name of Christianity than all other religions, including Islam, combined!

Christianity is indeed the religion of savagery as well as hypocrisy.

To Kevin Schmidt: Do you have statistical evidence for your statement: "more people have been killed and tortured in the name of Christianity than all other religions, including Islam, combined", which is stated as an assumed fact? Fact is, governments based on an atheistic philosophy have been THE most brutal, abusive, and murderous in all of history (Stalin, Lenin, Chairman Mao, Mussolini, the list goes on...).

Since your statement was an argument based on numbers, let's look at some. The two most cited by detractors of Christianity are the Salem Witch Trials and the Inquisition:
Salem Witch Trials: about 3 dozen. Tragic and shameful, yes, but the numbers aren't there.
The Inquisition: Top estimates are around 6,000.

Point is, while killing in the name of Christianity is an inexcusable travesty of what it means to be Christian, the numbers proposed are greatly exaggerated.

Some have cited Hitler as another example, but Hitler only attempted to exploit some Christian beliefs; he was not a professing Christian and had long abandoned his Catholic upbringing. His extermination of so many Jews was not based on any Christian belief, but his belief in "might makes right" and the ascension of an Arian Ubermensch.

Estimates of those killed under Stalin, either from direct extermination or indirectly through false imprisonment or starving in death camps and gulags number around 60 million of his own people and about 2 million Germans. Mao Tse Tung is responsible for the death of about 30 million Chinese.

What about in the name of Islam? 9/11 already has the numbers to around 3,000, not to mention the hundreds killed in other terrorist attacks in the past decade or two. Conservative estimates number Sadam Hussein's victims to at least 2 million. Muhammed himself personally took part in the slaughter of the innocent Banu Qurayza tribe where up to 900 unarmed men were slaughtered and their women and children enslaved. This was only one incident in his campaign to spread Islamic Jihad.

All in all, the numbers killed in the name of Christianity are dwarfed by the numbers killed from atheistic influence or Islamic Jihad.

The GOP is talking like the people of Illinois are bunch of cowards. The fact is we are not afraid of the likes of those held in Guantánamo. Jeremy Glick, Todd Beamer and others on UA Flt 93 gave their lives to to protect us all. The least we can do is to have the courage to bring the people responsible to justice.

Is there anything Republicans aren't scared of? Though I'm not sure moving Gitmo to Illinois really solves anything.

Here's a republican state rep with a law enforcement background who has a grip on reality:

http://blogs.e-rockford.com/sweenyreport/2009/11/17/sacia-strongly-suppo...

so why isn't gitmo targeted as you say chicago will be?
and if it is then if they cant succeed in their attempts at gitmo (a facility off the main land thats accesable by air, watter and land) then how in the world could they possibly succeed at thomson or any other location on u.s. soil